Why Verstappen accused Ferrari of cheating

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  • Published: 05 November 2019
  • Ferrari’s loss of pace in the United States Grand Prix increased the speculation around what might be behind its straightline speed advantage in F1 2019. Its rivals suspect that a technical directive clarification from the FIA about the cars’ fuel flow meters could have thwarted a trick Ferrari had come up with, and Max Verstappen went as far as saying Ferrari’s drop in pace at Austin was “what happens when you stop cheating”. With no firm evidence to analyse, and Ferrari claiming those accusations are “completely wrong”, Edd Straw and Scott Mitchell assess how the situation has moved on now weeks of debate behind the scenes is finally moving into some finger pointing in public

Comments • 2 607

  • whiteandnerdytuba
    whiteandnerdytuba  2 dias atrás

    It’s not cheating if you’re just playing the rule book

    • Joseph Nordby
      Joseph Nordby  3 dias atrás

      lol and ferrai just had a fine with descreptincy in the fuel amount in abu dubai

      • Nitin Guru
        Nitin Guru  5 dias atrás

        After the last race and the non existent ferrari pace, I feel Max's stand has been vindicated...

        • southernhighlander22
          southernhighlander22  6 dias atrás

          if anything i would look deeper into Hamilton and Mercedes Team Hamilton has pushed drivers out of the way and the other drivers have said it and even said that Hamilton and Mercedes were the ones that are cheating and have the FIA blessing to do so

          • Aaron
            Aaron  10 dias atrás

            Another 2 races have taken place since then and Ferrari were again in No Man's land. I think Verstappen was right, but he can wave goodbye to a future career with Ferrari.

            • steve ed
              steve ed  10 dias atrás

              Of course Ferrari and Mercedes are cheating cause they can bribe f1 stewards and they have millions of money to stay on top while the lower teams are struggling to keep up. Which isn’t fair. That why the f1 sport is boring to watch.

              • Joe Mc
                Joe Mc  12 dias atrás

                Ferrari should have a bumper car for Vettel. But would that be cheating? 🤔

                • badass loser
                  badass loser  12 dias atrás

                  f1 is not boring. compared to this

                  • rouelibre1
                    rouelibre1  12 dias atrás

                    I remembre a wicked man called Jean Todd. Has his philosophy stayed with the Scuderia still?

                    • Sergio’s Polvere
                      Sergio’s Polvere  14 dias atrás

                      That’s why for the last 10 years Ferrari has been winning and even in the last race Ferrari was fastest in straight line and again they won then we think Ferrari has 5 tires and RB only 3 and Mercedes only 2 1/2

                      • one ferrdek
                        one ferrdek  16 dias atrás

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                        • bigwaverider
                          bigwaverider  18 dias atrás

                          Even F1 Motor sports has turned SOY BOY. What has happened to real men?

                          • Aleksa Boljević
                            Aleksa Boljević  18 dias atrás

                            STFU MAX

                            • hello456able
                              hello456able  19 dias atrás

                              ferrrarri have a reputation for cheating!

                              • RikterZilla
                                RikterZilla  21 dia atrás

                                These kinds of comment are expected when they come from an entitled, trust fund baby who has been groomed from the womb to be an F1 driver. Always told he's the most wonderful, bestest, glorious boy the world could ever have. Too bad folks are snickering behind his back and calling him "Vercrashen"

                                • Johnny Malone
                                  Johnny Malone  23 dias atrás

                                  Everybody wants Verstappen, even after comments like this from Verstappen Ferrari will sign him any day

                                  • Daniele Sbordone
                                    Daniele Sbordone  23 dias atrás

                                    As long as you lose , everything is fine. Once you start winning , and things start going well , people start finding all sorts of excuses. It's the same thing in ordinary life , when you start obtaining good results , a lot of people become suspicious. I think Max should keep his big mouth shut. Nobody said anything about his Honda engine going from being a hunk of shit to a front row contender.

                                    • Max claire
                                      Max claire  24 dias atrás

                                      And 2 races later all of a sudden Ferrari isn't that fast anymore. don't get me wrong i love the cars Ferrari makes.

                                      • Juan Esteban
                                        Juan Esteban  24 dias atrás

                                        I am so sick of hearing about Max Verstappen, Max Verstappen, Max Verstappen; he's an classless, overrated twat who doesn't have a record to back up his mouth! My God he's on a top 3 team yet has crashed out more times than he;s been on the podium! Ferrari have been doing this for 90 years! Max just needs to STFU for a while and just listen.

                                        • Johan van Dalen
                                          Johan van Dalen  23 dias atrás

                                          Very dumb Ferrari fan boy.

                                          • carbonlifeform69
                                            carbonlifeform69  25 dias atrás

                                            What does verstappen know anyway? since when is he the last word? hes' won NOTHING, not even a contender

                                            • Johan van Dalen
                                              Johan van Dalen  23 dias atrás

                                              Ferrari lost all powers all of sudden. Cheater. Karma is a bitch yesterday.

                                              • Nicolaj Welten
                                                Nicolaj Welten  25 dias atrás

                                                Just shut up max!

                                                • francesco montagnino
                                                  francesco montagnino  25 dias atrás

                                                  Sveglia Ferrari, sveglia...basta stare zitti, basta non rispondere mai, basta....servono vittorie e risposte alle accuse, denuncia per diffamazione...sveglia!

                                                  • Lucas Browne
                                                    Lucas Browne  25 dias atrás

                                                    The skinny guy on the left is perhaps the worlds worst sports commentator. He is continually making either false or idiotic claims. There were a few in this clip with the most obvious being "...the teams don't want to dob each other in." Obviously this is wrong a la - Hass ratted on Renault over brake bias system. It was only a couple of races ago. GET HIM OFF!

                                                    • Marcos Torrani
                                                      Marcos Torrani  25 dias atrás

                                                      Cosa Nostra again!?

                                                      • Paul Scarpa
                                                        Paul Scarpa  26 dias atrás

                                                        F1 is so dramatic

                                                        • Apocalyptic Weasel
                                                          Apocalyptic Weasel  26 dias atrás

                                                          every year some says ferrari is cheating yet year after year who wins merc, merc, merc, merc hmmmm suspicious

                                                          • DREAMTEAM MMA
                                                            DREAMTEAM MMA  26 dias atrás

                                                            Everybody is butthurt over what Max said.....Grow up...

                                                            • Legio XXI Rapax
                                                              Legio XXI Rapax  24 dias atrás

                                                              @DREAMTEAM MMA Facts? You don't even know that word. According to your speech, that was merely statistic, a man with the feets in the snow and the head in the fire, it have a medium body temperature. That's how you're silly. Leave F1, occasional fan.

                                                              • DREAMTEAM MMA
                                                                DREAMTEAM MMA  24 dias atrás

                                                                Write a book instead of typing a long answer, basically trying to sound interesting and knowledgeable. You may find things silly but the facts are the facts and stay the facts even when you have time to write answers that long.

                                                                • Legio XXI Rapax
                                                                  Legio XXI Rapax  24 dias atrás

                                                                  @DREAMTEAM MMA Yeah yeah, and despite that you did that silly statement, it's all to say.

                                                                  • DREAMTEAM MMA
                                                                    DREAMTEAM MMA  24 dias atrás

                                                                    i watched F1 longer then you are alive boy.

                                                                    • Legio XXI Rapax
                                                                      Legio XXI Rapax  24 dias atrás

                                                                      @DREAMTEAM MMA "0.7 on the straight faster then RB and still no pole position" Is the classic phrase that only an occasional F1 fan, or a fanboy would have said. The stronger point of RB are fast corners, due his high drag, and Interlagos is almost full of fast corners. Ferrari on contrari have a lower drag than RB and MB, his advantage is in torque in the exit of corners not in aerodynamic. It means that if a track is stop&go made, like Monza, wth slow speed/short corners, Ferrari would be unbeatable (as it was). On contrary with an high aerodynamic track like Mexico, USA, Interlagos with long and fast corners, the tractions Ferrari have give them no advantage, cause the average speed during the lap is almost constant. So what hapened there, true that Ferrari gained 0.7 thents in the fast sector, but they lost 8-9 thents in the fast corners sectors...in fact Verstappen was 2-3 thents faster than Ferrari. Upon the crash episode they was just idiots, but it have to happen sooner or later, is better that is happened now than next year.

                                                                      • Riccardo Bossi
                                                                        Riccardo Bossi  27 dias atrás

                                                                        let's sum this one up, we have a dominant team, that gave very little space to the other for 6 years RB: fine with it. ferrari now has a good car that puts up a fight and makes the gps more iteresting and fun, RB: this is illegal, we should fuck them up and ruin relationships between teams because we ain't go down alone i think this is just bullshit, ferrari simply has a better engine, sometimes they fuck up because they are testing strategies and set ups for the next year since this one is already over, at least this is what it looks like to me

                                                                        • SoupFork
                                                                          SoupFork  27 dias atrás

                                                                          Everyone: F1 has become predictable and boring and drivers have become media puppets without character, we miss the old spectacle and drama! Max: Says something mildly controversial Everyone: OMG how DARE you. You have stolen my dreams and my races with your empty words. And yet you're one of the lucky ones. Teams are suffering. Drivers are dying. Entire rule circumventions are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass regulation, and all you can talk about is Ferrari and fairy tales of questionable engineering practices. How dare you!

                                                                          • Legio XXI Rapax
                                                                            Legio XXI Rapax  26 dias atrás

                                                                            There's some differences between making a controversial statement against another driver, and say without evidence that a team is cheating, making a fake statements like the one he did will make Ferrari losing millions in the stock exchange market, this child not even know with what is playing around. And guess what? Ferrari returned faster in Brazil giving 0,7 sec on the straight to RB even if FIA clarified with official directives (as asked by RB) how the flow meter should work legally. What it mean? That Ferrari is fully legal, that RB don't knowing not even what data they are analyzing (cause the flow meter theory on Ferrari was did by Mercedes, as Marko said, but also that theory is wrong) and that Verstappen the crybaby don't know what he's talking about. Conclusion: Verstappen did a shitty figure, as Red Bull did.

                                                                            • MrZoranbebek
                                                                              MrZoranbebek  28 dias atrás

                                                                              keep digging into what ferrari has but you dont-mercedes and red bull are the bigest scamers ever came into f1 period.

                                                                              • Lionel Bunker
                                                                                Lionel Bunker  28 dias atrás

                                                                                I had a feeling that Ferrari was cheating.; now confirmed.

                                                                                • Legio XXI Rapax
                                                                                  Legio XXI Rapax  26 dias atrás

                                                                                  Guess what? Ferrari returned faster in Brazil giving 0,7 sec on the straight to RB even if FIA clarified with official directives (as asked by RB) how the flow meter should work legally. What it mean? That Ferrari is fully legal, that RB don't knowing not even what data they are analyzing (cause the flow meter theory on Ferrari was did by Mercedes, as Marko said, but also that theory is wrong) and that Verstappen the crybaby don't know what he's talking about. Conclusion: Verstappen did a shitty figure, as Red Bull did.

                                                                                  • Cary Coller
                                                                                    Cary Coller  29 dias atrás

                                                                                    They aren't winning, so their trick isn't working.

                                                                                    • Guust
                                                                                      Guust  29 dias atrás

                                                                                      Watch the ziggo clip on yt (ziggo verstappen valsspelen) and he literally says "Yes but yes, that's what you get IF you stop cheating ofcourse". He said IF , not WENN.

                                                                                      • Michael Brown
                                                                                        Michael Brown  29 dias atrás

                                                                                        Which just proves the point... there are too many rules in F1. What's the point of engineers developing the cars if they are called cheaters? Soon F1 will be like the old IROC Series. Equal cars built to the same specs.

                                                                                        • kevin butler
                                                                                          kevin butler  29 dias atrás

                                                                                          I love hearing drivers accuse the other teams of cheating as if they aren't also cheating. Every team is cheating. If they aren't trying to push the regulations to their absolute ragged edge then they are doing it wrong. Glass houses Max.

                                                                                          • Jools Tyler
                                                                                            Jools Tyler  29 dias atrás

                                                                                            It's not the first time is it now, ferrari are a terrible team eh Flavio Vettel cheats as much schumacker did

                                                                                            • Legio XXI Rapax
                                                                                              Legio XXI Rapax  26 dias atrás

                                                                                              Guess what? Ferrari returned faster in Brazil giving 0,7 sec on the straight to RB even if FIA clarified with official directives (as asked by RB) how the flow meter should work legally. What it mean? That Ferrari is fully legal, that RB don't knowing not even what data they are analyzing (cause the flow meter theory on Ferrari was did by Mercedes, as Marko said, but also that theory is wrong) and that Verstappen the crybaby don't know what he's talking about. Conclusion: Verstappen did a shitty figure, as Red Bull did.

                                                                                              • Peter Richardson
                                                                                                Peter Richardson  29 dias atrás

                                                                                                Funny how Ferrari seemed to have a power advantage last season, and the FIA checked their batteries - which were "fine" - yet the advantage seemed to disappear immediately afterwards. And now the same thing again this season.....

                                                                                                • Legio XXI Rapax
                                                                                                  Legio XXI Rapax  26 dias atrás

                                                                                                  Guess what? Funny how Ferrari returned faster in Brazil giving 0,7 sec on the straight to RB even if FIA clarified with official directives (as asked by RB) how the flow meter should work legally. What it mean? That Ferrari is fully legal, that RB don't knowing not even what data they are analyzing (cause the flow meter theory on Ferrari was did by Mercedes, as Marko said, but also that theory is wrong) and that Verstappen the crybaby don't know what he's talking about. Conclusion: Verstappen did a shitty figure, as Red Bull did.

                                                                                                  • Wolf J.
                                                                                                    Wolf J.  29 dias atrás

                                                                                                    Answer: Because he's a Red Bull schmuck who can't cope with defeat.

                                                                                                    • Frank Ie
                                                                                                      Frank Ie  Mês atrás

                                                                                                      I cant really believe how cool calm and collected the would say ok... dont do it again... If....... If its all true.... wouldnt that deserve a disqualification for previous races?

                                                                                                      • Matt768
                                                                                                        Matt768  Mês atrás

                                                                                                        Maybe because last season they used ice packs on their intercoolers and this season they have been playing about with their fuel mixtures? That's why he accused them, because they ARE cheating, and yet they still lost the season. Max just has the bollocks to say it in public.

                                                                                                        • BeeCee
                                                                                                          BeeCee  Mês atrás

                                                                                                          Max sad what the rest of the world -not red- is thinking. Smart? Maybe not. Honest? Absolutely!

                                                                                                          • Arman Maaba
                                                                                                            Arman Maaba  Mês atrás

                                                                                                            Yeah max is right that Ferrari maybe added fuel flow that exceeded on the FIA limit as per regulations and this isn't easy to be noticed. Somehow this can be tracked by any other team specifically when 2 cars are racing on straight line on a multiple race. And you will know that once you've reached the maximum limit the car will not add any kph/mph because no force is exerted to counter the flow of air.

                                                                                                            • maverick buckley
                                                                                                              maverick buckley  Mês atrás

                                                                                                              If an engine with 3 races in it drops 11mph off it's top speed factoring in Downforce then the Ferrari engine is utter crap. Which it isn't. Occums razor. F1 has always been about who can 'bend' the rules the most . One team has been caught 'bending' them more than anyone else.

                                                                                                              • Jason rushton
                                                                                                                Jason rushton  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                Was'nt it the same in the early 00's?? Shell giving Ferarri a differant type of fuel to the rest of the team's they supplied??

                                                                                                                • Enricom23
                                                                                                                  Enricom23  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                  Shut your pie hole, Verstappen...

                                                                                                                  • Shane Shepherd-Ashby
                                                                                                                    Shane Shepherd-Ashby  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                    Let's go back a few years and remove all this "Boffin Hardon Material/Devices" from the cars and just let the "Drivers" drive and not steer these machines.... This is my opinion...!

                                                                                                                    • suicidal.banana
                                                                                                                      suicidal.banana  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                      F1 should just be shut down tbh, its an ever increasing mess. We should all support FE instead

                                                                                                                      • fladave99 Mills
                                                                                                                        fladave99 Mills  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                        I am not watching that $hit $how until they go back to V-10 or 12. BYE

                                                                                                                        • DavidMillsSeven
                                                                                                                          DavidMillsSeven  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                          They cheated. Every denial of Ferrari so far is apologising around the issue. They put a mechanism in place to circumvent a control system put in place there by the FIA to create a level playing field. The fact that they were not punished severely was, because apparently there was NO RULE that clearly stated: "you cannot interfere with our control systems in a way that DO NOT TOUCH our control systems". Furthermore Todt = Ferrari = Leclerc. Verstappen would never have gone to Ferrari, he's a pure racer. Ferrari is far too political. Ask Vettel.

                                                                                                                          • mobgma
                                                                                                                            mobgma  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                            GREAT CHANNEL. GREAT DISCUSSION,

                                                                                                                            • MrCurry
                                                                                                                              MrCurry  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                              An expensive mistake. Even if Verstappen never plans to go to Ferrari in the future, he would want whatever team he is negotiating salary with to believe he might do so. Take away his route to Ferrari with a stupid petulant comment, and he’s reduced his salary negotiating power forever. That one outburst could cost him tens of millions of dollars. Stupid kid.

                                                                                                                              • John Smith
                                                                                                                                John Smith  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                                Lolz fuel/oil cooler gate, or Ferrari Gate?

                                                                                                                                • Garagista
                                                                                                                                  Garagista  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                                  Max is awesome but I'm so sick of F1... It wouldn't surprise me if he quit F1 early

                                                                                                                                  • Chop Choy
                                                                                                                                    Chop Choy  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                                    Than all Ferrari's winning was false in 2019 , bloody Mafia team.

                                                                                                                                    • Jeremy quiring
                                                                                                                                      Jeremy quiring  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                                      Lol he's faster there for Hes cheating no dumb dumb they just have less downforse. So in his mind if you have no downforse then go faster in the straights your a cheater even if you have less grip

                                                                                                                                      • Craig Gallagher
                                                                                                                                        Craig Gallagher  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                                        I hate cheaters but with how restrictive and locked down the regs and rules are, it's almost a necessary evil to keep the racing interesting especially for teams that have no other way of ever catching up to teams that essentially have a monopoly on competitive performance. Open the sport back up again to crazy out there innovation and let the chips fall where they may. Set a fuel usage limit but let the teams decide how they use it and if they run out before the end of the race or have a negative effect, thats the risk of going a different way than the norm. But it may also gain them an advantage which the other teams then need to innovate a response. Need much more risk vs reward in this sport rather than these stunted, locked in idiotic rules that punish for years on end the teams that simply dont get it correct right off the bat.

                                                                                                                                        • Mashetekiller
                                                                                                                                          Mashetekiller  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                                          Like Mercedes never cheated...

                                                                                                                                          • The RealButcher (Peter from Holland)

                                                                                                                                            LOL, if you press on the sour spot, they squeak ... hmm, fishy

                                                                                                                                            • Greg Lockhart
                                                                                                                                              Greg Lockhart  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                                              Two point's: Mercedes,, Engine/turbo oiling & party mode. This was a was a issue in 2017 that was silenced rather effectively....

                                                                                                                                              • Sebastian Alejandro Carballes

                                                                                                                                                Yessss, someone that remembers all the Mercedes fuzz, nobody is talking of that or the other parts. They dominated the year, but ferrari wins 2 races and the are illegal hahhaa

                                                                                                                                                • DownLow0099
                                                                                                                                                  DownLow0099  Mês atrás

                                                                                                                                                  F1... The cry baby sport...